Steven Cloud

Birth Control

Pijohos:  if god wants you to have a baby who are you to say no
Pijohos:  how come every part of every aspect of a condom coming into existence, being manufactured, any deaths related to the shipping, processing, is god's will, with the exception of actually using them.
Steven Cloud:  b/c sin, dude. b/c sin. and freewill. except you have to have that baby b/c god said. anyway, you know, free will.
Pijohos:  how do their brains misfire so much
Pijohos:  is it that you and I are super smart? no way.
Steven Cloud:  that's part of it, yeah.

Deal Breaker

Steven Cloud:  for me the deal breaker is the same question that was never answered as a kid: who created god? if the answer is 'he just always was' then why can't the universe be infinite?
Pijohos:  that just gets you pinched under the table at dinner
Steven Cloud:  also, if he's all knowing and all powerful, he created people for the sole reason to send most of them to hell for eternity
Pijohos:  you and i are just executing God's Will
Steven Cloud:  seriously. there's no other way to be. there is no free will under that belief system
Pijohos:  yet that's the basic tenet
Steven Cloud:  yet they blame sin on free will. god created the devil to trick us: god = dick